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TellItToTheDA
08-12-2010, 02:43 PM
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/thehotstoneleague/2012608619_bobby_valentine_reportedly_wou.html#con tinue


One of the first names to surface in speculation about replacement candidates for the fired Don Wakamatsu was former Rangers and Mets manager Bobby Valentine.

Valentine is not commenting, but friends of Valentine say that it is a job that he would be greatly interested in.

Valentine, who turned 60 in May (I erroneously listed his age as 62 in a previous post), is currently an analyst for ESPN, a job he has held since ending his stint as manager of the Chiba Lotte Marines in Japan after the 2009 season.

Valentine's name is invariably brought up every time there is a managerial opening, and in late June, after pulling his name out of consideration for the Orioles opening, he appeared on the verge of being hired to replace the fired Fredi Gonzalez as manager of the Florida Marlins. But the talks fell apart and the Marlins kept interim manager Edwin Rodriguez.

"If this is a major-league process, I hope I'm never in the process again," Valentine said on ESPN's Baseball Tonight. "It's very disturbing, confusing and it was insulting at times, but it's over."

There has been considerable speculation that Valentine could be a candidate to return to the Mets if they fire Jerry Manuel, and he recently said he would be interested in the Cubs' opening after Lou Piniella retires at the end of the season.

"Anyone who thinks of himself as a manager would love to be considered as one of the people who might take his place,'' Valentine told the New York Daily News.

However, someone familiar with Valentine's thinking said Valentine believes the Mariners job "is among the most appealing jobs in baseball'' despite the current turmoil.

Valentine has had clashes with management throughout his career but turned around a struggling Rangers team, won a National League pennant with the Mets in 2000 and a Japanese championship with the Marines in 2005.

He has not managed in the majors since he was fired by the Mets after the 2002 season. Valentine has indicated he doesn't want to take over a team in midseason because he is still learning the current major-league players. He wants a full spring training with his new team.

The Mariners appear to be looking for an experienced manager to follow first-timer Wakamatsu, and Valentine has 15 years in the majors, plus two stints in Japan, under his belt. The question is whether they would go for a strong-willed - some would say abrasive -- candidate like Valentine. He reportedly has a good relationship with Jack Zduriencik, who was the Mets director of minor league operations when Valentine was managing at Triple-A in the Mets farm system.

clarknova
08-12-2010, 02:47 PM
Uh Oh!!! Bah Bee Vee!

JosephC
08-12-2010, 06:33 PM
He's a taker. I don't have any problems with him (yet).

clarknova
08-12-2010, 08:11 PM
I'm good with anyone but Joey Cora.

Igoe4Mariners
08-13-2010, 04:35 PM
Something about watching Bobby V on Baseball Tonight pisses me off, but if he wins, I'll be fine with it.

clarknova
08-16-2010, 09:47 AM
Peter Gammons via Twitter:


One Mariners person says Ichiro has talked to ownership about hiring Bobby Valentine, Suzuki's preference

Apparently Ichiro meets with Fusajiro Yamauchi every season in Japan for a "state of the Mariners" meeting. So, whatever Ichiro thinks about what's going on with the team is probably a pretty big part of how our ownership views the team.

Nateyb24
08-16-2010, 10:20 AM
Peter Gammons via Twitter:



Apparently Ichiro meets with Fusajiro Yamauchi every season in Japan for a "state of the Mariners" meeting. So, whatever Ichiro thinks about what's going on with the team is probably a pretty big part of how our ownership views the team.

Didn't know Ichiro has this kind of power lol. Doesn't surprise me given his fame over there though.

TellItToTheDA
08-18-2010, 10:44 PM
I was just doing some Mariners' research, and I happened to come across this article from 5 years ago. This little tidbit about Valentine stood out:

http://www.seattlepi.com/baseball/239784_mfeature08.html


Valentine still follows the Mariners, both out of interest and convenience. As manager of the Chiba Lotte Marines in Japan's Pacific League, he can watch Seattle play every morning, since local stations carry all of Ichiro Suzuki's games.

"I'm disappointed," Valentine said. "I think it's great when Seattle can connect the country, be a good baseball team, have that late-night game mean something. When Ichiro came over and signed, I can honestly tell you, I remember telling my friends that I wished I was managing there.

"They found the end of the rainbow. Everything was falling into place. My friends there were ecstatic with the game of baseball. You could watch it on TV and sense the crowd, the excitement. It jumped through the screen. It was fabulous, that era there."

JosephC
08-20-2010, 07:34 AM
I love that quote where they say that all you have to do to get something to Ichiro is just put his name down, not his address and it will reach him in Japan.

clarknova
08-20-2010, 08:34 AM
This is sort of out there IMO, so I didn't give it it's own thread, but I read this this morning and laughed at the picture in the article. So, I thought I'd share:

Mariners looking at Ted "Drunk Uncle" Simmons for manager in 2011

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/the-mariners-are-reportedly-eying-ted-simmons.php

Now, this would surprise me because regardless of my aforementioned statements about the field manager's irrelevance as it pertains to wins and losses, I do think that a case can be made that a manager does have some quantitative effect on the team. Look at the Buck Sho in Baltimore. He didn't show up and wave a magic wand to make those guys more talented. I've read a lot from analysts and bloggers about how the "new manager" effect is very common, results in wins, but that a team will always regress to the mean based on it's talent level. I don't think that's unreasonable, but I also believe that if there is a manager that can inspire some wins early in the year, then those wins can inspire winning. Winning begets winning and the opposite is true I think. It's more natural and acceptable to question authority when than authority is inexperienced. It happens either way, but I guess I'd like to see a manager that has some big league experience. We don't need another Wakamatsu debacle. They need to find someone that's going to stick around for a while, and that will be accepted and respected by the players. Not because someone told them to, but because they command it with their presence. It would also be nice to get a guy that doesn't look like he's about to start crying all the time (Wakamatsu, Melvin, Hargrove).

phredmojo
08-20-2010, 09:50 AM
simmons will never happen. howie and chuckie will not allow it

TellItToTheDA
08-20-2010, 10:39 AM
simmons will never happen. howie and chuckie will not allow it

I really don't think so. For all the crap tweedle dee and tweedle dum get, they've allowed Jack Z to be mostly autonomous. They didn't hire him to be a puppet.

phredmojo
08-20-2010, 07:04 PM
I really don't think so. For all the crap tweedle dee and tweedle dum get, they've allowed Jack Z to be mostly autonomous. They didn't hire him to be a puppet.

not really. i happen to know for a fact the firing of wak and the hiring of brown was not Z's decision at all. it was 100% chuckie's

Nateyb24
08-23-2010, 11:11 PM
I think Howie and Chuck have been staying out of most things because obviously Lueke wouldve never been included in Z's trade if they knew that Lueke had a criminal past especially against women.

But i think there were some things they did stick there nose in like re-signing Griffey then leaving it all up to Wak of how to get rid of Griffey and they just kept there hands off it and let Wak look like the bad guy.

Wak sort of did have to be fired none of the players really respected him after the Griffey thing we need to get a experienced manager i hope.

Hmm weird it has two Z's but when i go to edit it out it doesn't show two Z's owell.